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Comparison between Kriss Turn Signal Cancel unit and the Kisan turn signal flasher/cancel unit.

I liked your product well enough to sit down and tell you why, actually hoping you would post it to save others the time and expense of buying a less effective product. You have my permission to post my comments.
Kevin D - Washington, IL

I received the Kriss turn signal canceling unit yesterday (09-May-06) and installed it on my 2005 Yamaha FJR1300. The unit replaced a Kisan Signal Minder SM-3. The installation instructions were clear and concise. I installed mine up under the front panels. Took about an hour. Of course, I already had the brake light +12 wire up there for the Kisan unit.

This Kriss unit is better than the plug-and-play unit from Kisan. Here's why. The Kisan unit obviously has some internal logic that causes a delay in the initial flash. The Kisan unit flashes noticeably slower than a standard flash for either a motorcycle or a car. The Kisan unit requires a longer, more deliberate cancel than the stock flasher or the Kriss unit. The Kisan unit required a reset from the turn signal if the flashers were run regardless of whether the turn signal switch was moved or not. If the Kisan unit timed out after a turn and your next turn was the opposite direction, the flasher would not work unless a deliberate cancel were done. All of these annoyances inspired me to look at other options. The Kriss unit is easy to install, and has NONE of the annoyances listed above. The flash starts immediately, starts counting over when the brake is applied, cancels quickly every time and flashes at a normal pace. If the unit times out on a turn and the next turn is the opposite direction, the cancel done by the bike's switch triggers the Kriss unit to work. It's great. In summary:

Function	Kriss	Kisan SM-3 (2005)
Installation	Easy	Easier
Flasher start	Instant	Delay
Cancellation	Instant -Cancels every time	Deliberate (too quick and it won't cancel)
Works without pushing turn signal cancel after using flashers	Yes	No
Works on opposite direction turn after cancel without deliberately pushing cancel	Yes	No
Safety Improvement	High	Medium

With regard to this statement: The Kisan unit requires a longer, more deliberate cancel than the stock flasher or the Kriss unit. Let me describe a scenario. When I switched on the turn signal with the Kisan unit and the flasher didn't flash, I'd realize that it had timed out on my previous use. So I would push to cancel the turn signal and then switch the signal on again. 8 times out of ten, I would have pushed it too quickly or maybe I didn't hesitate long enough between the time I pushed to the time I tried to actuate the switch, and the thing would not turn on the signal. So going through the turn, I'd be going through the process again to get the thing to turn on. Now that I'm thinking about it, I suspect the logic in the Kisan unit did not have time to register that I broke the circuit, before I re-engaged the circuit. This same problem is probably why the turn signals wouldn't work in situations where they'd timed out after one turn but wouldn't work on the next turn even if it were the opposite direction. The Kriss does, I assume, because it recognizes at roughly the speed of light that the circuit was broken as the switch moved from one side to the other.

- End of this evaluation in Kevin's own words and table as sent to us -